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apple spyder obama, from a womb with cat disease (a_chr0i) wrote,
@ 2009-09-20 18:57:00

Give me one of your characters and one of my characters and I'll tell you exactly what they think of them -- what they like, what annoys them, what they wish they could change, and what they expect to happen in the future.

so we all role play here. some of us are more serious than others*, but i think we all recognize that it is all pretendy funtime games. rl comes first, et all. so- how do people feel about drops? do you do it without guilt? do guilty feelings gnaw at you from the inside until you die with a bleeding guilt ulcer?

why do you guys drop? lost muse? too busy? has anyone felt the urge to drop, not because you dont have enough interactions, but because when you post with a character, you're overwhelmed with interaction that you don't have the time for, but your character would?

how much responsibility do you feel toward your sl partners? would you rather cut a character from your roster and have that guilt or feel those hurt feelings from a partner, or would you rather keep a character you know people love, but not play them as much as people might want?*

idk, i am feelin woozy. hopefully this stuff makes any sense.

*during these sentences, i coughed up phlegm!

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	flyspeck 2009-09-20 10:38 pm UTC (link)
	Toni/Andy Janelle/Rob Janelle/Cal Chloe/Dan Mary/Benjy I'll let you off easy. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	a_chr0i 2009-09-20 10:40 pm UTC (link)
	i will do one and then you will do one. we will make it fair. c'est bien? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	flyspeck 2009-09-20 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	FINE. i corrected your spelling/typing btw. :] (Reply to this) (Parent)

a_chr0i
2009-09-20 11:23 pm UTC (link)

toni likes- perhaps liked? that andy was funny. he was the first person to really make her smile in a long time, and that endeared him to her hugely. even now, after all the douche stuff he's done, she still remembers him as the first friend she had made in a while, which is why she's not given up on him.

she wishes he wasn't so self centered, self conscious and self pitying, and she wishes she never hooked up with him- it made him feel lead on, it caused issues for her, and it makes scott unhappy.

she honestly doesn't know where they're going from here. she doesn't think she'll be able to forgive another bullshit move, and she knows andy is just full of those.

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a_chr0i
2009-09-21 02:19 am UTC (link)

janelle is often confused by why she likes rob, but she really does. he's SUCH a guy that it's funny, and he's so offensive in this doofy goofy way that it just stops being offensive. he's funny and knows how to give lip right back to her. he's not too serious and he and she can text lyrics back and forth.

she doesn't like that he can be such a pig about things, or that he can be such a coward when it comes to things like feelings. if she could change things, she would make him a bander- she actually thinks he would fit in damn well with the bros, and ellie would be happy.

she expects more texting and locked convos. she likes rob.

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a_chr0i
2009-09-21 02:32 am UTC (link)

underneath all the i hate yous, chloe likes dan just fine. she likes that what you see is what you get. he doesn't hide who he is, he's honest, direct and not a liar. with best friends like alex and zac, who are such terrific liars, are so good at being charming, the fact that dan is so in your face honest is actually something chloe really, really longs for. for the most part, even if it's not plesant, it's genuine, which is why chloe likes when dan does something nice, or shows some sort of concern. like volunteering to kick someone's ass for her, when he came and picked her and wally up from the party. when he called her pretty- she's more likely to believe it from dan than she is from zac or alex. she also likes that she can rile him up, because it's usually pretty fucking funny.

what doesn't she like? rofl. ROFL. he's a giant prick, and she hates how crude he can be, and the way he talks to her. the way he treats wally and sam, and how he'll flip the switch from almost seeming to give a shit to being a cold callous asshole. she's goddamn sure there has to be something or someone he gives a shit about, and she wishes he would be a little more transparent with his humanity. she doesn't like that she finds him physically attractive.

what does she wish she could change? 'his whole frigging personality?' which is somewhat true. she likes the honesty, but could do without the being a massive dickhole. she wishes she knew where is stood with the crew as a whole- does he like them or not? she would make him cleverer, or at least make him apply himself a bit more.

she expects to yell at him frequently, and to be stuck in the get away van with him in london. like always.

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	wentsch 2009-09-20 10:45 pm UTC (link)
	Toni/Scott Janelle/Ellie Chloe/Sam Charis/Ceddy Coral/Mycroft (Reply to this) (Thread)

a_chr0i
2009-09-20 11:40 pm UTC (link)

rofl what does she like? she loves that he's been a gentleman (using the term totally lightly) to her since they met. yes, he leered, yes, he hit on her, yes, he would use innuendos, but he also held the door open for her, and -legit, he did this- would carry her books to class for her. that, coupled with the fact that he WASNT doing this for anyone else made her feel special, and toni is a big fan of feeling special.

she likes that scott is wild and adventurous, and can keep up with her. he'll do bad shit for the hell of it, or do bad shit just because it makes her smile. she likes that he's a hell of a lot smarter than most people take him for, and that he's also a hell of a lot more generous and DARE I SAY sensitive. she likes that he's silly with her, that he's in love with her and that he's physically affectionate. she likes his eyes, and loves his dimple and his smile. she also adores his family. minus daisy.

she doesn't like that he's not talking to andy, that he's willing to let her be a part of the reason they're not talking. she doesn't like that she can't embarrass him, and she doesn't like that it took him so damn long to fess up to being into her. if she could change things, she would probably have tried to been with him during timesplosion, and would have been more obvious with the fact that she was into him. she would have gone to his room with him on his birthday, and not andy. also he is too tall >:(

she expects to be together for a while. she's not really at all unhappy with him right now, and she can't imagine things ending. but this is neopolis, so anything is possible.

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	wentsch 2009-09-20 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	Daisy hates you too, redheaded biotch! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	missbossyboots 2009-09-20 10:45 pm UTC (link)
	I pretty much never drop a character if there are a lot of other people who have interaction with, and I find a way to deal with it. Whether it's dropping other, less active characters or not picking up new characters/games, but I hate hate hate putting people in the position of having to work around my character suddenly being gone. (Reply to this)

wentsch
2009-09-20 10:53 pm UTC (link)

Discussion-y stuff!

I always feel guilty about doing drops. There has never been a case where I dropped where I didn't feel bad about it to some extent. As such, I try not to do it. I feel like a jerk and like I wasted time if I put all that time and effort into an application only to drop them later on. But I have dropped characters, and for a variety of reasons: lack of time, the "lost muse" excuse, not feeling the game anymore, feeling cheated out of certain interactions, etcetera. Usually some combination of a few excuses. Obviously, my excuses range from selfless ones to purely selfish ones.

As for responsibility towards SL partners; I'd hate to hurt the other person by dropping a character, so I don't think I would. But I don't think I'd tell the other person I contemplated dropping, either. That's just as hurtful and can make the SL partner feel like I'm not invested, that it's a total chore on my part, and that will only generate bad feelings on both ends. I guess some play is better than no play, you know?

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	flyspeck 2009-09-20 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	The only time I've dropped characters is when I've dropped games, and I think I've only done that once. I didn't really feel bad about it because the game was bad, but there's still that nagging guilt that you're being a dick. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	flyspeck 2009-09-20 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	in my case, more of a dick than usual. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	chthonian 2009-09-20 11:08 pm UTC (link)
	TOBI. (Reply to this) (Thread)

a_chr0i
2009-09-21 12:29 am UTC (link)

oh man, toby makes toni laugh, like. a lot. she likes that he's much wittier and sharper than he first seems (or at least first seemed to her). when he is sassy or sarcastic? she is in roflville population 1. he's really quite unlike any male friend she's ever had: he's bookish, has a strong social conscience and a set of morals (strong ones, too, but just having them in general is pretty new for her). he's terribly kind, sensitive and open about both of these things. he's also understanding and forgiving. ngl she thinks he's a pretty christlike figure- all his friends are always involved in massive shenanigans, and he always forgives them their faults, and she's grateful that he's never blamed her for the lefg issues. plus he is the single greatest drunkblogger of all time.

what doesn't she like- this is hard. i supposed she didn't much like his psudeodates with marla, and leading annie AND marls on in that way. he makes her feel guilty at times- not on purpose, just she sees these shenanigans and she sees tobes suffer and she's all dlsfjslkdjflskdfjsdljfk i am so sorry.

she would probably change, if she could, his outlook on the league or "bad" things, and she would try to get him to loosen up a bit more often.

she wants a tobi drunkblog experience again. AGAIIIIIIN. and she's bossy enough to make it happen, cap'n

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tl;dr~

chthonian
2009-09-20 11:26 pm UTC (link)

And discussion-wise: HOO BOY, I had to sit back and figure out who I've actually dropped over the course of my RPdom.

But dropping/quitting are usually one and the same with me, and therefore I experience REAAALLY POTENT bleeding guilt ulcers re: abandoning a game entirely. My "I CAN'T BE ACTIVE D8" problems are often with entire RPGs rather than individual characters in a cast. I rarely ever experience the "lost muse" justification; it's always a case of me loving playing the character itself, but not having enough time (or not consciously devoting enough time) to being active at the game.

Like Rodolphus @ Handful of Dust, Regulus @ Scotopia, Martin and Prudence @ Happily Inc; in all those cases, I've had to quit because I was obviously not invested enough to stay active, for a variety of reasons. I have a slew of other games where I've tried joining with one character, but never managed it. Hence why dropping usually meant quitting. It's like I'm either all-in with a full roster, or not at all.

Soooo I'm not quite sure what advice to give, since everyone's drop policies vary from person to person. ♥ Sometimes you have to be selfish, if it's actually taking a hard toll on you and you would really seriously benefit from just cutting that dead weight. If it's still do-able, though, sometimes you can afford to be selfless and just try try try again to Make It Work! /tim gunn There are so many examples of people struggling with a character, only to eventually fix them and love playing them more than they ever have. But it's individual and personal, and again, it varies. So good luck, bb, in balancing those considerations!

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	rainbowling 2009-09-20 11:28 pm UTC (link)
	Toni/Annie Janelle/Queenie lol i am lame. (Reply to this)

	yeti 2009-09-20 11:53 pm UTC (link)
	Toni/Christian Coral/Christian (Reply to this)

	pronto 2009-09-20 11:59 pm UTC (link)
	Toni/Regina! I will come back with discussion stuff when I am not supposed to be cleaning. (Reply to this)

irridescent
2009-09-21 12:08 am UTC (link)

Usually, I drop because I take too much on than I should. I'm the type of person that really likes to help out someone with Storyline X or Game Y, so I add on and add on because I think I have the time and motivation, only to find that I do not. It's not a good habit to get into, I think, because when I do inevitably drop these things, I end up feeling more miserable about the fact that I knew this was probably going to happen and that I didn't voice this concern early enough.

So, that being said, I consider drops to be acting as a mode of responsibility to the game at large. If I'm not going to be playing a character that others depends on, I think it is more hurtful to keep them along and make my fellow players believe that I'm going to play them than it is to say, "Sorry guys, I can't do this, so I need to let go of Character X." If I'm playing with good, responsible people who are relatively grown-up, they should respect my decision and respect that I want to live a life outside that of RP and that it is a hobby that enriches instead of rules my lifestyle. And you know what? Right now, I do. That being said, I think I've been part of very irresponsible drops wherein people didn't communicate to me properly about what was going on until it was far too late -- I think that if you're dropping that way, versus sitting your SL partners down and saying "okay, I want to drop X, so let's figure out what's going to happen with our characters and how that affects each other," that you probably do deserve to have guilt ulcers eating you up. But if you drop responsibly and ensure that everyone involved have contingency plans and that you're not just doing this flippantly, then everyone can leave the situation with a reasonable amount of happiness. You'll still be available for the interactions you can provide, and although the characters left behind will have that relationship closed to them, they will at least have closure. So, that's my philosophy on the subject.

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	herozero 2009-09-21 02:07 am UTC (link)
	I am lazy and tired, but I will say that I pretty much agree with everything Allibrown said. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	a_chr0i 2009-09-21 02:37 am UTC (link)
	do u need a siesta?? btw i am taking a latin american film class and we are studying mexico so i will pretty much be a boriqua by the end of the semester (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	strongerfaster 2009-09-21 02:45 am UTC (link)
	Haha very much so. Thank God I have tomorrow off too. Boriquas are Puerto Ricans, lady. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	a_chr0i 2009-09-21 03:04 am UTC (link)
	MAYBE I WILL LEARN THAT IN MY FILM CLASS. (Reply to this) (Parent)

tl;dr

rainbowling
2009-09-21 12:15 am UTC (link)

Hmm. I haven't actually dropped in a while, though I am going to drop a game pretty soon. Not Neo dun worry. But I really enjoy being invested in a game from beginning to end, and in the past few years I've really only left games that were already dying, IIRC, or ones that I only had one character in and wasn't very invested in to begin with. But I try really hard to think ahead and make sure that I don't over-do it with games and can handle what I have. And it mostly is games rather than characters. I can handle 10 characters at two games better than I can handle 6 characters at three.

But, back to drops. I apped one of the Montgomery sisters at Perdition but wasn't feeling her, but I stuck her out until the final battle of the game since it was only a month. When Redemption opened as P's sequel, though, I just didn't pick her back up. I also knew that I might not have as much time, so between dropping her and Crabbe dying, it was easy to have less characters at P than at R.

I played Dick Casablancas at Beyond Wonderland a few months ago but since he was a bit of a crack character I couldn't get into the game that much (even though I enjoyed HIM), so I dropped that game. But I didn't really feel bad for others because he wasn't super *involved*.

I do sometimes have that issue (of worrying about responsibility with sl partners) but recently it's been with characters deaths and not drops. I knew I was going to kill off one of my BL characters when I picked her up, and then Alya picked up her brother, but though I tried to keep her upcoming death on the DL, I made sure Alya knew what was going on so that she wasn't just left high and dry when I killed her.

At Neo I do sometimes feel overwhelmed by interactions that my character would have time for but I don't, but in those instances I try to give them a reason to be really busy. For Annie, I just say she has to work a lot. Or for any of them, they have something to do for class and don't have as much time for anything else.

I don't know really what I would do about cutting vs. not playing as much. Well, I kinda do. I have never really been active at BNW (one of my HP games) and so I feel like I've been sitting on the characters for a few months and occasionally posting, and I finally decided that I need to either shit or get off the pot, and I don't have time really to play there, so I'm quitting soon. But I'm going to try to wrap up loose ends for two of my characters so other characters that do interact with mine have an easier time before I do.

IDK. The whole thing is weird and it always varies. I try to give myself a lot of time and put effort in before I drop a character, and a lot of times I'm really glad I do while other times I still drop anyway.

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	lovedbythesun 2009-09-21 02:03 am UTC (link)
	Toni/Marla Chloe/Marla (they haven't really interact, but they could through Sam) (Reply to this)

speedforce
2009-09-21 02:10 am UTC (link)

I drop for all of the reasons you listed, really. If you're not feeling a character, you're not feeling a character, full stop. I say this now, of course, but I should win some sort of award for feeling guilty about RP shit. I normally don't make drops if I'm too busy, because I'd rather just keep pushing myself to make time, even though that doesn't always work. But yeah, drops are pretty much unavoidable sometimes. It sucks, but you really shouldn't feel guilty.

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	mie 2009-09-21 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	Alex/Chloe Kimberly/Eva Marina/Kimber :] (Reply to this) (Thread)

	a_chr0i 2009-09-21 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	ROFL MARI AND KIMBER LOLOLOL THAT ONE WILL BE OSM (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mie 2009-09-21 01:50 pm UTC (link)
	LOL IKR? This is the face he makes at you, Marine. (Reply to this) (Parent)